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Old October 16th, 2017, 01:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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SG (Gibson vs Epi)

I made two attempts with Epi SGs. First was a red SG400 and then a Pelham blue SG Pro. I couldnít love either one. I tried swapping pickups, bridges, required them with upgraded pots and caps, but they always sounded dull to me. Plugged in or unamplified, they sounded bad.

I finally broke down and got a Gibson SG STD T in Pelham blue and totally love the sound. Unamplified and amplified.

Why??

Is there a big difference in tonewoods? I have always been reluctant to believe that Gibson was much different from Epi. Maybe I had a run of bad luck but I can play them back to back and totally tell the difference in tone.

Is it my imagination??

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Old October 16th, 2017, 01:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Because it is a Gibson, the Gibson give you very good vibrations , so good !
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Old October 16th, 2017, 02:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Because it is a Gibson, the Gibson give you very good vibrations , so good !

Due to different tone woods?

Iíll avoid further references to vibrating objects
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Old October 16th, 2017, 09:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hah! Epiphone does make some good guitars, but they don't sink as much into materials as Gibson. So sometimes you get fortunate and find a great one among the masses.
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Old October 17th, 2017, 01:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hah! Epiphone does make some good guitars, but they don't sink as much into materials as Gibson. So sometimes you get fortunate and find a great one among the masses.

Well no one seems that surprised by my experience. Guess I was the last to know
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Old October 18th, 2017, 07:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I have played some of the "lesser" brands that great guitars, and I have stumbled onto a very few of the more expensive brands that weren't quite up to the their best. But overall, you do tend to get more if you pay more.
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Maybe I've just been lucky, but I have both Gibson and Epi SGs and they are both great guitars. But, considering the simplicity of the SG's build, that really is not much of an argument for quality of sound. The primary factors here are the mahogany body and neck, and currently, Gibson does not have a lock on quality of either of those components.
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Mahogany is a very consistent wood, and probably why it has been used for so long and so well. Another key component to a solid body's tone is the glue joint between the body and the neck, and that contributes a lot to tone and sustain.
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As far as a big difference in sound unplugged it could be the nut or the strings on your epi. Comparison between epi and Gibson is Apple's vrs oranges. If you put a bone nut and high quality orange drop caps in a epi SG 400 pro you should be satisfied. The range of tone is about as wide as any guitar plus all my amps and boxes respond better.
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As far as a big difference in sound unplugged it could be the nut or the strings on your epi. Comparison between epi and Gibson is Apple's vrs oranges. If you put a bone nut and high quality orange drop caps in a epi SG 400 pro you should be satisfied. The range of tone is about as wide as any guitar plus all my amps and boxes respond better.

Nut was stock, all electronics and even pickups were swapped. Paper/oil caps and Bournes pots. Could be the nut but I suspect neck/body materials.
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