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Old November 7th, 2006, 09:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Considering an ES-335 CRR

I found a mint or near mint condition ES-335 CRR. The asking price is $2,500 but I believe that there is plenty of negotiation room. The guitar curently has flatwounds (probably 0.12) and plays beautifully. I only had the chance to play it clean and at a relatively low volume. Much more of a test drive is needed. I have always wanted an ES-335 and love the classic 335 sound. My concern is that the CRR is a bit of a different beast since it has the dirty finger PUs as well as a few other differences. I play a wide range of music including various jazz styles, blues, R&B, and classic rock. My gut tells me I should wait and get a more classic 335. I have read the posts here regarding the CRR and would like to get some further feedback on your thoughts regarding this model. Thanks.

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Old November 11th, 2006, 05:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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DSHarmon, the only drawback to this guitar in stock form is the p/u's. I've changed out the pickguard (from white to the more traditional black) and other things to make mine look basically like a current ES-335, but with block inlays and a Brass nut and coil-splitter switch.
Those Dirty Fingers are, essentially "Heavy Metal" p/u's, and not really suited to a 335. Mine plays like butter, but weighs in at 9lbs. If you like the ES-335, this is as good as any.
BTW, Seymour Duncan '59's really did the trick for my ES-335CRR.

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PS: That TP-6 tailpiece isn't to my taste; I retro-fitted a standard stop tailpiece. Norlin tampered too much with a good thing with the ES-335CRR, but it's all easy to remedy.
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Old November 13th, 2006, 10:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Eggman,

Thanks for the feedback. I'll give it a full test drive and will probably end up swithing out the PUs if I go ahead with it.

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Old January 13th, 2007, 02:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Just to wrap up this story. I bought the guitar just after Christmas. I gigged with her New Year's Eve and once since then. It plays great. The pickups are very hot and I'm considering swapping them out, but we'll see. I'll try to post some pictures, hopefully it works.


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Eggman, Thanks for your help.

Dave

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Old May 31st, 2007, 09:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hey, cool!!! That brings back memories of my first Gibson. Congrats!
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Old June 2nd, 2007, 10:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
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DSHarmon, sorry for waiting so long. That's a keeper! Mine had covered p/u's (Hmm..) and a smaller faded golden center for it's burst finish. Yours is lovely and has more flame than mine. Congrats!
How does she sound now that you've had 6 mos+ to play her? Have you made any changes?

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PS: Have you noticed that the neck is a 3-piece Maple instead of one-piece Mahogany? Interesting. Who knows? The CRR may become a sleeper on the vintage market.
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Old June 5th, 2007, 07:51 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi Eggman,

You were a big help while I was researching the guitar. Thanks.

I really enjoy playing this guitar. The feel of the guitar is just right for me. The range of tones is outstanding. I have pretty much been a neck pu player on my Les Paul. On the CRR with the volume open the neck pu can be a bit bassy at the low end, but some minor amp adjustments can take care of that. It has performed very well with every amp I've tried. I have used it mostly for Jazz, Blues, and Classic Rock. I am still on the fence about changing out the pickups. So far I have been able to get very good tones with minor tweaking for the styles I mentioned, but going to the classic 335 pickups is tempting.

I hadn't noticed the neck until you pointed it out. Yup, 3 piece. I agree that it may become a sleeper.
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Hey Dave,

Been reading through this because I just recently bought a CRR myself. My friend has one as well. Being that there are only 300 of these, the three of us represent 1% of the total ever made.

I guess my point is that you should not change those pickups out. This guitar is rare as rare can be, and keeping its integrity would be wise. Still, if you did change the pickups, it makes mine that much more valuable...

I have seen a total of 5 CRRs and 2 CRS models (Country Rock Stereo. 3 knobs, covered pickups, stereo output.) ... 2 of the CRR models were changed, one of the all originals was in medium condition, and the two my friend and I have are in mint condition.

Yours looks pretty much perfect. I hope it stays that way. Don't lose those pickups if you do end up changing it out. You'll regret it later. This guitar is a sleeper and they're only getting rarer.

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Old January 20th, 2008, 01:49 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Sangandongo: Congrats on the new ES-335CRR I've not made any permanant changes to my ES-335CRR! You are correct about the possibility of the value going up on these "sleepers". I've got the original P/Us here in the closet-where they belong.
I hope your 335 plays like butter, too. The only shortcoming for mine is the weight: 9 lbs.
I've always been more of a Rickenbacker man for semi-hollow guitars, but my 335 has grown on me in recent years, especially with the SD 59 replacement P/Us.

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Old January 20th, 2008, 10:27 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I love Coffee!!

So yeah I have had my 1979 335 CRR for a while now (her name is Coffee) and I must say it is the only guitar I have that every single one of my friends, from rock and rollers to hardcore punk guys pick up and immediately fall in love with! As a matter of fact Sangandongo above would not stop trying to buy mine, until I found him another!!

I think the misconception with this guitar is its intended purpose. I think of it as an evolution to the standard 335 sound. I can coax jazz tones from it, clean strumming tones, country twangy tones, and it is great for rock and roll. It is NOT a guitar for heavy metal!! The thing about the CRR is that if a player has good control of dynamics, knows how to use the volume and tone controls, there is not one sound you cannot get from it period!!
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