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Old June 25th, 2017, 10:36 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Ditto to what John said!

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Old June 26th, 2017, 06:28 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Strings and tension.

I've never got to the bottom of just what makes widely differing string tension on guitars with nominally the same scale length. Ok so Jazz archtops have 12's but "normal" Gibsons I'd usually fit 10's except I've come across oddities like my 345 and 60's tribute where the top strings seem unusually tight for the gauge. Ernie Ball hybrid 9's -( top half 9's, bottom three 10's) seem to allow a bit easier bending on those two.
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Old June 26th, 2017, 07:59 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Might the break angles (both at the nut and the bridge) have something to do with it? I don't fully understand it either. One would think that with the same scale length, and when tuned to the same pitch, they should feel the same.
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Old November 20th, 2017, 03:59 PM   #44 (permalink)
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thank god ive read this thread was about to buy a es custom shop 339 this week from gumtree ,but the issue for me is the very tall frets I'm used to my 88 Clapton sig strat and 08 one with vintage frets and my epi 339 has similar height frets ,brought a mid town custom recently love the sound but find its a little to big and heavy and the frets are to high so I'm going to sell it and get a epi casino coupe to cheer me up,love Gibson guitars but guess there just not for me
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Old December 1st, 2017, 02:47 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Seems that Gibson's QC is not at it's best. On a new 2012 SG Classic had to do some things to it to make it right. When all done with it to my satisfaction, really a good playing and sounding Gibson guitar...........................
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Old March 25th, 2018, 02:48 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Workknot, I had the some problems with my 335 that I bought on eBay. Aside from a chipped pickguard that I'm working on to repair, the factory strings were crappy and the truss rod adjustment was way off. Like all my guitars, I put them on my bench and set them up. It quickly came into specs with fret polishing, fingerboard oiling, intonation set, truss adjustment and a new set of Ernie Ball 10's, it really plays great. This is my third 335, the first one I returned to Musician's Friend because the sunburst finish started to come off on my wrist! The second one went back to another dealer due to a bad neck set. The stop bar and the bridge were maxed out in height! This third one is great so I guess third time is the charm. It's also the most expensive one. Makes me wonder about Gibson's QC. Does it exist?
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Old March 25th, 2018, 10:32 PM   #47 (permalink)
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It is always best to see, touch and play a guitar before you buy it. I believe that a lot of dealers sell guitars on eBay that aren't selling off their floor, unless of course their entire business is selling online. And Musician's Friend doesn't even open up the cardboard boxes that Gibson sends them, so they don't get inspected for damage, setup or other issues.
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Old June 14th, 2018, 08:43 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Now, in 2018, most if not all of their senior techs have probably been let go and told no mas, too bad. Gibson will not be the same if/when bought out by the east. The formaldehyde fumes from the cases will be overwhelming and probably won't ever see the trademark binding over the frets again.
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