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Old August 10th, 2011, 05:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What is Mystic Rosewood?

Hi folks,new to the group,just said hello over in the Intro lounge. I am curious about the species of rosewood I see on new Gibson acoustics,termed "Mystic rosewood".At Wildwood they are introducing the New Vintage line,and one of the woods on models is this Mystic rosewood.A seller on Ebay suggested it may be reclaimed Brazilian rosewood,but considering Gibsons' building ban on using Brazilian makes me seriously question such.Does anyone know the story,has played any of these Mystic models,opinions and such? Curious as all get out.
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Old August 10th, 2011, 06:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't know. It may just be advertising hype.....like AAAAA flame maple. Or, it could be wood from somewhere that they aren't supposed to use. Call Wildwood and ask them.
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Just to clarify,I am not concerned where the wood came from per se.I KNOW Gibson acquires their wood legally ,through a process that is traceable and ethically correct.My curiosity is based on origin,and how it relates to sound.I loved the Madagascar useage,not so much Indian,based on a few AJ's I once had.If there is a a new wood species,I like to know.Technical geek at times.I spoke to a J-45 Mystic owner,and he said hands down it was the best Gibson he's ever played.Mind you the use of hide glue,aged bone parts ect,plays a part in this equation,especially as some of these details are new,in combination,on some guitars.
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I have no idea...but just for grins....Could it be the wood that caused the Feds to Raid Gibson's Nashville plant and headquarters not long ago??? Maybe all was found to have been done according to the books, the feds released the wood, and it thus became 'mystic'????
I would think that 'mystic' is simply some appellation applied to the wood to cause some wonderment and ...........
'mystique'.
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Maybe all was found to have been done according to the books, the feds released the wood...????
IIRC -- Gibson was not cleared in that.
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I see REPORT,ummm.....did I say somethoing wrong?
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I see REPORT,ummm.....did I say somethoing wrong?
No 'REPORT' is there for people to report posts they find offensive, abusive etc.
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Hi folks,new to the group,just said hello over in the Intro lounge. I am curious about the species of rosewood I see on new Gibson acoustics,termed "Mystic rosewood".At Wildwood they are introducing the New Vintage line,and one of the woods on models is this Mystic rosewood.A seller on Ebay suggested it may be reclaimed Brazilian rosewood,but considering Gibsons' building ban on using Brazilian makes me seriously question such.Does anyone know the story,has played any of these Mystic models,opinions and such? Curious as all get out.
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Brazilian rosewood harvesting is banned. (CITES). While it is still prized as
the original rosewood source, only old stumps are supposed to be harvested and even then, I think that any wood seller would have a hard time explaining where his wood actually came from.

Rosewood is a generic name for a different species that grow
in tropical areas of the world. such as Brazil, Madagascar, Honduras/Guatemala/Belize, and even Bolivia and Panama.

The most common available now is east Indian, which is not as good as the original Brazilian tonewise. So perhaps "mystic" is a label for the
rosewood used on those guitars, that can come from anywhere..such as Indonesia, Borneo, Burma or even the Carribean.

Cocobolo is also wood that is similar in texture and figuring to the common
more popular rosewoods. I have been tempted to make another acoustic
guitar from cocobolo as it is highly figured and has the same colour and
consistency as Brazilian rosewood. However, I still prefer the old growth
Honduras mahogany which is also banned and any supplies of it are
also prized and guarded by luthiers for their most expensive series.

I've been experimenting with Spanish cedar (which is not a cedar but more
of a type of mahogany for my guitars). Carved some necks out of it and
like the way it machines. My next guitar is more of a cigar box style 6 string with blade pickups (but not square like the CB kind), and I'm planning on making the top/back and sides out of spanish cedar that I have acquired for
it.

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Spanish Cedar is a traditional wood for guitars. It has been used for classical and flamenco guitars for centuries.
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Spanish Cedar is a traditional wood for guitars. It has been used for classical and flamenco guitars for centuries.
True, but some flamenco guitars are made of cypress wood which is commonly
referred to as spanish cypress which is a conifer bearing tree with needles.
The tops are usually cedar or spruce with cypress back/sides for more treble
than than traditional classic guitar.

Spanish cedar is the wood is the traditional choice for making the neck of flamenco and classical guitars as it is very stable.
I guess one can make a guitar out of practically any wood used on the back
and sides, as long as the top is designed right for the sound you want to
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