p-90 duel humbucker swap?

v man · December 8th, 2009, 06:43 PM

i would like to know if you can swap out p-90 for a duel humbucker without routing the space and also what is the dif. between a p-90 and a p-100 which one would be more crunchy and chunky? thanks guys!

charliechitlins · December 8th, 2009, 08:54 PM

A "dual humbucker" isn't one thing...it's 2 things...2 pickups. A Les Paul has dual humbuckers.
Mini humbuckers will fit in the space of a P-90, but not full-sized ones.
P-100s are essentially a humbucking P-90.
A lot of folks don't like them...I figure it's because they perceive they're trying to be something they're not.
I think they're an OK sounding pickup...they just don't sound like a P-90.
Mini humbuckers, like in the LP Deluxe and Firebird are, IMO, KILLER pickups.

v man · December 9th, 2009, 02:10 PM

thanx charliechitlins which one has more thick crunch or chunk p-90 or p-100?

indianation66 · December 9th, 2009, 03:09 PM

As described by a Gibson-Talk brother, long ago, a P100 sounds like a P90 with a blanket over it. Thus, the 90 has more crunch. I can attest to this from my own experience...

...wisdom

charliechitlins · December 9th, 2009, 06:12 PM

Wait a second...to me swapping OUT a P-90 for a humbucker means taking OUT the P-90 and putting in a humbucker.
I'm not sure what you're trying to do.
As for Crunch and Chunk...they are pretty subjective terms.
I'd suggest you listen to some Mountain.
I think leslie West's tone pretty much illustrates the gold standard for rock and roll tone available from a P-90.
Also great is early Fleetwood Mac with Peter Green.
Danny Kirwan had a great, bluesey P-90 tone.
You can spot his solos because he uses a lot of fast vibrato...much more than Peter Green.
A more modern version would be Sean Costello.
Tasty stuff.
A lot of folks use P-90s for a clear, articulate tone, but they REALLY growl when pushed.

v man · December 9th, 2009, 06:32 PM

it was two sep quest. if i wanted to do some mod. in the future on a m.m. i understand now if i want to go with a duel h bucker i will have to rout the pocket if i end up likeing the p-90 keep it dont go with the p-100 or try the minie h bucker and see how that sounds thanks guys you have helped me again!!!

chuckedup · December 11th, 2009, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charliechitlins

Wait a second...to me swapping OUT a P-90 for a humbucker means taking OUT the P-90 and putting in a humbucker.
I'm not sure what you're trying to do.
As for Crunch and Chunk...they are pretty subjective terms.
I'd suggest you listen to some Mountain.
I think leslie West's tone pretty much illustrates the gold standard for rock and roll tone available from a P-90.
Also great is early Fleetwood Mac with Peter Green.
Danny Kirwan had a great, bluesey P-90 tone.
You can spot his solos because he uses a lot of fast vibrato...much more than Peter Green.
A more modern version would be Sean Costello.
Tasty stuff.
A lot of folks use P-90s for a clear, articulate tone, but they REALLY growl when pushed.

well put!! got nothin to add to this.......laters...chuck

YouTube- Leslie West - Mississippi Queen

Wally · December 11th, 2009, 02:22 PM

FWIW, the mini-humbucker and the pickup that was used in the Firebird and which was an Epiphone pickup oriiginally, are two different pickups. Both are brighter and more articulate than a typical large Gibson humbucker from the same time frame. Neither are 'chunky' to my ear. Adn, yes, they will both fit into the soapbar surround.
RE: Leslie WEst....that man made the P-90 go to work! The meanest sounding P-90
and the liveliest sounding P-90 type pickup that I have heard is the 'slug' P-90 that came in the 1947 ES-125's. These pickups have non-adjustable pole pieces versus the adjustable poles in the better known version of the P-90. Their sound is bigger, more robust....great pickups. The pickup that is in my 1946 BR-4 lap steel is the same thing, I think.