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Old February 7th, 2017, 01:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Recording a 335 style guitar unplugged using a piezo pickup?

I just got an Epiphone Dot which I love. One thing I like about it is that it is loud unplugged for an electric. It gave me an idea. Would it be possible to use a piezo pickup for recording? It has the potential to sound great. Has anybody tried it?

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Old February 8th, 2017, 11:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Well, you would have to install a bridge with a piezo pickup in it, and rewire the entire innards of your Dot. And that is not a project for the timid! I'm not really a fan of piezos myself due to their inherent peaks they seem to produce when I play them, but it might work great for you.

I have heard of players recording a 335 style guitar with just a microphone with interesting results. It doesn't sound like an acoustic guitar, but it can fit nicely in some mixes.
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Old February 8th, 2017, 04:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I've even heard of miking solid-body Fenders and mixing the miked and amp tones in recordings. Never tried it, but it sounds like an interesting way to add depth to the guitar tone. Not very practical for performances I guess. I share Stan's feelings about piezos—they sound nasal and stringy to my ear without some kind of major processing. The sound an acoustic's top generates isn't at all like an amplified piezo to me. Odd that people now associate the piezo sound with acoustics, and think that adding piezos to an electric will produce an "acoustic" guitar tone. I have heard acoustic tones from un-miked guitars (acoustic and solid-bodies) that are pretty convincing on TV that I assume are processed in some way. In particular a TV performance by Joni Mitchell with a Parker Fly. The D-tar Mama Bear has a youtube sample of their box that seems to use the piezo signal as a kind of trigger for real guitar samples, but it's pricey.
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Bugo, are you talking about using one of those "stick-on" piezos? Or replacing the bridge with the LR BAGGS Ghost system?

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Yes, the stick on pickups.
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Old February 9th, 2017, 06:47 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I recall trying that with my Dot and I really had to turn up the gain just to get some sound. Unlike an acoustic guitar, the Dot's top doesnt vibrate much due to its thickness and the fact that its attached to a solid center block. Its louder than a solid body because it has a hollow chamber to resonate. Its pretty much like playing your ipod in your hand and then placing it into a bowl or an empty Pringles container. The sound gets louder and deeper.

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