Discussion in 'Les's Living Room' started by Biddlin, May 20, 2018.

  1. Biddlin

    Biddlin Member

    A few months back I decided it was time to quit playing out. Partly because I don't wear as well as I used to and a three set gig leaves me pretty worn out, but mostly because it's not as much fun as it used to be. This weekend, I got a call from an old friend asking if I'd cover for him in his trio. I agreed, knowing him and the trio for a long time. Dark suit and tie gig in a huge home in the Berkeley hills, about 150 guests, I'd imagine, raising money for a political campaign. All went well. I had a good time, we played great and were on the road home before midnight. Arriving back in Sacramento around 2 am this morning, I remembered one of the reasons I don't do this as well as I used to, as I pulled the amp, guitars and equipment bag out of the car and drug them all inside. My back is killing me and I can't get to sleep. Finally gave up trying around 5:30 and started the percolator. I looked in the mirror a few moments ago and I look like a cast member from Walking Dead.
  2. jimilee

    jimilee Member

    That’s exactly why I don’t do it either.

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  3. johnreardon

    johnreardon Active Member

    Come on chaps. I'm older and yes my body feels awful after a gig, but there's nothing like it when you are playing live. Better than sex :biggrin:
  4. Infant

    Infant Active Member

    I understand both sides but I'm with John on this one (except for the better than sex part!). Like John, I own the PA. So when i play with my main band, I've got a ton of crap to unload at the end of the night. By the time I get home and unload, like Biddlin, I'm wired and I can't sleep. I usually stay up an extra hour or so, have a little nightcap and then hit the sack. It works for me. I'm still pretty "bagged" the next morning but I still enjoy the playing part of the deal.

    I recently left another band that was playing 2 -3 gigs a month at Canadian Legions. They were early gigs from 7pm-11pm. All I had to bring to these gigs were my guitar, amp, mic and pedalboard. I was home by midnight and in bed by 1am. These gigs didn't wear me out at all as I would play my 6lb Fender Thinline through a 32lb Peavey Studio Pro. I have a folding dolly that I use to carry my stuff to and from my car. It's all so much easier on the back. I really enjoyed playing these gigs. I just found that 2-3 gigs a month was more than I could do as I'm still working 40+ hours a week at a real job.

    Sorry for rambling on here but I think what I'm trying to say is that by using newer, lightweight equipment, you may be able to enjoy gigging again.

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  5. Biddlin

    Biddlin Member

    " but there's nothing like it when you are playing live. Better than sex"
    Well, no, but perhaps a bit less enervating.
    "Sorry for rambling on here but I think what I'm trying to say is that by using newer, lightweight equipment, you may be able to enjoy gigging again."
    But I just spent a fortune (not really) on valve amps and P-90 Les Pauls for that vintage sound. ;).
    I don't know what my V32 Palomino weighs, but it definitely rates a cart.
    I always carry at least two guitars. My old drummer Cadillac Jack LaVelle used to poo-poo guitarists complaints about the load out. "You guys don't have to build and de-construct your instrument for every freakin gig."
    Yeah, playing is great and once I can again stand upright and lift a coffee cup without wincing in pain, I'll be ready to do it again, no doubt.:cool:
  6. SAguitar

    SAguitar Active Member

    Play on guys, as long as you possibly can. If Les Paul and Chet Atkins could do it as long as they did, then we must trudge on. Besides, I don't know what I would do if I quit.
  7. Biddlin

    Biddlin Member

    I played bass for a friends retro-rock band last night. Loud is damning with faint praise. I usually play through a 65 watt Peavey bass amp with 1/15. Last night I was pumping through a 150 watt tube rig and 4/15s. I was wearing noise cancelling headphones the whole night. Oddly I wasn't nearly as enervated after playing bass for three hours as I usually am after my normal guitar duty. I never loved a bass before I got my Tbird. We are just simpatico. The balance of is very good and I have it setup to my perfect spec.
    It's good to work outside your normal comfort zone, too.
  8. SAguitar

    SAguitar Active Member

    Cool beans, Bid. I hear ya. Since I played bass professionally for several decades I got pretty competent at it. Today, I would rather play electric guitar, but playing bass alongside a good, tight drummer is a great feeling. You get to contribute a lot to the feel, and dynamics of each song, and it can be a lot of fun without demanding near as much brain power.
  9. Biddlin

    Biddlin Member

    "demanding near as much brain power."
    Therein is my previous issue with bass, I was always overthinking it. The Tbird is just intuitive to me. Spent years not enjoying it because I couldn't just run on cruise control.
  10. DrumBob

    DrumBob New Member

    I feel bad for you older guys who feel like warmed over crap after gigging. I must be doing something right; I'm 67, play drums in three bands and guitar in one, and other than the occasional sore kneecap or back, I must be doing something right. Sure, I hate hauling gear around, but it's part of the gig, so I do it. Maybe it's because I've lived a fairly clean life; never smoked cigarettes, never did booze or drugs to excess, exercise, try to eat sensibly, etc.

    I have made concessions; I've invested in lighter drum hardware and now lug my hardware in two bags instead of one that's super heavy out of necessity.

    I can't imagine a life of not being in a band and playing music.

    Yes, I'm diabetic, have an inguinal hernia that doesn't bother me, and had a DVT blood clot several years back, but those are under control with meds and have no bearing on my ability to play gigs regularly. I'm able to handle up to 15-17 gigs a month this summer, no problem. The only thing that bothers me is the Jersey heat and humidity. I have an outdoor gig tonight and will bring the 20" box fan!
  11. SAguitar

    SAguitar Active Member

    Way to go, Bob! Playing music doesn't make you old, not playing makes you old.
  12. johnreardon

    johnreardon Active Member

    I'm 72 and play lead guitar. I take a head plus two cabs and usually a couple of guitars to a gig. However, I also onw the PA so have that to carry in and out, although rest help. It's not that so much, it's the loading and unloading my van before and after the gigs. Still as you say

    I can't imagine a life of not being in a band and playing music.


    My current gig is playing for the church's praise team. The biggest benefit being that I can leave that amp (Vox AC10) in the auditorium. While it's not my usual country rock format, current gospel can get swinging pretty nicely. And developing solos around those songs presents just the challenge that keeps me enthused about playing.
  14. SAguitar

    SAguitar Active Member

    That's my current gig, too. I get to play quite often, comfortably loud, and the music is always quite challenging and changing. I leave my gear (except for my guitars) there too, since I have plenty to choose from at home for practicing.

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